Integrating Ancient Wisdom with Modern Science

October 17–21 Vancouver, British Columbia

Canada’s premiere conference on the art and science of energy psychology.

Panel Discussion: Saturday October 15

Moderated by Dawson Church

Objective: Participants will be able to identify at least 1 condition for which energy healing is often ineffective or not indicated as a primary therapeutic modality.

Question: Name two conditions for which energy healing is rarely indicated
Answer: Serious psychopathology such as dissociative identity disorder.

Moderator: Dawson Church, PhD, is an award-winning author whose best-selling book, The Genie in Your Genes, (www.YourGeniusGene.com) is regarded as a breakthrough in our understanding of the link between emotions and genetics. He founded the National Institute for Integrative Healthcare (www.NIIH.org) and has published many studies of evidence-based wellness techniques. He shares the breakthroughs of energy psychology through EFT Universe (www.DawsonGift.com), one of the largest alternative medicine sites on the web


David Gruder, PhD, DCEP,  is a 10-award-winning Leader & Business Success Psychologist who trains, facilitates, and consults to helping professionals, businesses, and nonprofits. He was the Association for Comprehensive Energy Psychology’s first president and is currently a CEO Space International board member.

My intention is to address any or all of the following shadow dimensions related to how energy healing fails:

  1. Define Shadow for the purposes of our panel discussion
  2. Competition Shadow: my energy method is better than others
  3. Paradigm Attachment Shadow: my ideology about [what works & doesn’t work] is better than others
  4. Tensions Terror Shadow: oversimplifying both/and paradoxes into either/or polarities
  5. Therapist Savior Shadow: Trying to treat the unready whose Systemic Energetic Imbalances (SEI) prevent progress
  6. Symptom Control Shadow: Being seduced into treating the Endless Problems Parade instead of identifying the Priority Goal and, within that, the Priority Treatment Focus
  7. Shadow Objections: Trying to sidestep identifying & treating Psycholenergetic Reversals that sabotage success, including but not limited to Positive Psychology Shadow (New Age Denial).

Objective: Define shadow & describe some of the many forms it can take in energy healing.

Question: According to this presentation, which of the following are among the forms that shadow can take in energy healing?

  • A) Therapist Savior Shadow;
  • B) Symptom Control Shadow;
  • C) Positive Psychology Shadow;
  • D) A&B only; E)
  • A&C only;
  • F) B&C only;
  • G) All of the above

Answer: G

Christine Page, MD is a pioneer in the fields of healthcare and energy medicine. An international speaker and gifted intuitive, she sees herself as a bridge builder whether between different modalities of wellbeing or states of consciousness. She is the author of eight books

Objective: Participants will identify ‘what needs healing’ by looking beyond the obvious and into the realms of mystery and wholeness.

Question: How do we, as practitioners, expand our own awareness of healing to encompass realms outside our own experiences, desires to ‘fix’ or basic training?

Answer: The meaning of the word ‘healing’ is to make whole or to ‘know ourselves fully’ as spiritual human beings. Energy medicine already explores the realms of consciousness beyond the merely physical accepting the influences of emotions, beliefs and environment on our state of wellbeing. Yet, from a  soul perspective, illness is less of a problem and more of a soul-ution, entreating both client and practitioner to move beyond the desire to return to the previous state of ‘health’ and travel together into mystery so the client can integrate parts of themselves still unclaimed and unknown in the shadows. For this to happen, practitioners need to be willing to enter their own shadows so they can, with compassion and wisdom, serve as a guide into wholeness for their clients.

Joyce Hawkes PhD, AAAS Fellow, biophysicist, near-death experiencer, healing facilitator. She has been practicing energy healing internationally for 3 decades. Books: Cell-Level Healing: The Bridge from Soul to Cell, and Resonance: Nine Practices for Harmonious Health and Vitality.

 Objective: Participants will have a very thorough and compassionate experience of  how to address a client for whom the work has failed.

Question: What do you say to your client when the work fails?


1) Listen deeply to them.

2) Is there another modality that might benefit them. What has helped the most prior to this work?

3) Carefully make recommendations.

4) Do not throw blame around to them or to yourself.

5) Address ‘biological time’ in which their body may actually respond with more time. Develop a new understanding of how the body’s resources function.

Lewis Mehl-Madrona, MD, PhD is Faculty Physician, Family Medicine Residency, Eastern Maine Medical Center, Bangor. Associate Professor, Family Medicine, University of New England College of Osteopathic Medicine Coyote Institute for Studies of Change and Transformation, Orono, Maine

Objective: Participants will be invited to reflect upon what constitutes “failure,” and to consider the results of healing interactions from an indigenous perspective.

Question: How do indigenous healers relate to the question of failure in energy healing?

Answer: Indigenous healers from the cultures I have studied consider energy healing to involve an invitation to beings from the spiritual realms to participate in the affairs of humans.  This invitation does not presuppose an outcome.  Energy healing, then, never fails, for we cannot know, as physical world beings, the direction in which things are supposed to go.  It is our hubris that defines success or failure, and what may be failure on the one hand is success on the other.  Examples will be provided.

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